Monthly Archives: April 2006

what am i doing in McLeod Ganj?

Jay Baba……this morning Beloved Mahadeva, from Belgium, asked me what am i doing here?! so the following was the reply and may be an excuse to update this blog after sometime….. hope to appear more often, later…. In His Love …………… Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

“………. i am having a very lovely peaceful time here,
meeting new friends from ALL over the ‘village’, from Iran too
….. moved my room to a more remote area now and i play some drum sometimes and like to practice some voice,
playing with my Tanbura and Tabla digital toys!…..

Baba’s Grace it is like a dream life, no tension, no expectation,
….. i must have dome something to deserve it now
( have suffered enough for such kind of life!)

Here the atmosphere is more Tibetan than Indian and it is a great blessing…… sometimes i miss the Magic Hill, but Baba can be here, as MUSH as there…”

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for the girls wishing to ‘marry’ = MOHEM AST

Jay Baba, the following i just found in my inbox, it is about the rights the woman CAN HAVE, to be registered in the marrigae certificate. If you do not ask for it, they will not give them to you! So make sure these ‘conditions’ ARE WRITTEN in your marriage document.

تازگی ها (پایان سال 1387) یک تغییر دیگر  و مهم در سند های ازدواج داده اند و یک جمله ی کوچک را تغییر داده اند که طبق آن مهریه فقط در صورتی قابل وصول است که داماد استطاعت یا توان پرداخت آن را داشته باشد. یکی دیگر از حیله های آخوند های مکار برای فریب زنان…..
خیلی مهم است برای زنان قبل از سند خوردن
این شروط باید با عبارات حقوقی معینی در عقدنامه نوشته شود و در صورت ذکر نشدن برخی عبارات خاص حقوقی از حیث اعتبار خارج است و نمی توان به آنها استناد کرد.

1. زوج به زوجه وكالت بلا عزل با حق توكيل به غير ميدهد تا زوجه در هر زماني كه بخواهد از جانب زوج اقدام به متاركه نموده و از قيد زوجيت خود را رها كند به هر طريق اعم از اخذ يا بذل مهريه.

2. زوجه اجازه دارد از هم اكنون هرگاه خواست به خارج از كشور برود و نياز به اجازه مجدد زوج ندارد. چه براي اخذ يا تمديد يا تجديد گذرنامه و اين اجازه دائمي است.
3. زوجه حق ادامه تحصيل تا هر مرحله اي كه لازم بداند و در هر مكان و محلي كه ايجاب نمايد مخير است.
4. زوج ، زوجه را در انتخاب هر شغلي كه مايل باشد و هر كجا كه بتواند كار كند، مخير ميكند و اجازه ميدهد كه مشغول به كار شود.
5. زوج و زوجه متعهد ميشوند هنگام جدايي اعم از اينكه متاركه به درخواست مرد باشد يا به درخواست زن، كليه دارايی كه بعد از ازدواج دائم زوجين به دست ميآورد بين آن ها به مناصفه تقسيم شود.
6. حق انتخاب مسكن و تعيين شهر يا محلي كه زندگي مشترك در آنجا ادامه پيدا كند با زوجه خواهد بود.
7. اگر در آينده زوجين داراي فرزند شدند و طلاق اتفاق افتاد حضانت فرزندان به عهده زوجه باشد و در صورت خروج از كشور نيازي به اذن پدر ندارند.

ازدواج یک قرارداد حقوقی است که بر اساس آن زن و مرد حقوق و تکالیفی را بر عهده می گیرند. بر اساس قوانین مدنی ایران، این حقوق و تکالیف به صورت برابر بین زن و شوهر تقسیم نمی شود و در واقع زن به موجب عقد ازدواج بسیایر از حقوق مدنی و معنوی خود همچون حق سفر، اشتغال، انتخاب مسکن، ولایت بر فرزندان و جدایی از همسر را از دست می دهند و در قبال آن حقوق ماد همچون مهریه و نفقه را به دست می اورند که در بسیاری ازموارد دستیابی به این حقوق مادی هم با مشکل همراه است، براي رفع اين نابرابري و براي اينكه يك تعادلي بين اين حقوق و تكاليف برقرار شود، ميتوانيم از شروط ضمن عقد استفاده كنيم.يعني زن و شوهر يك سري مسائل مورد توافق خودشان را كه قانون در مورد آنها ساكت است يا نظر قانون در آن زمينه مورد پذيرش آنها نيست ولي مطابق خود قانون توافق خلاف آن هم ممكن است، در سند ازدواج به عنوان شروط ضمن عقد ثبت كنند.
این شروط که شامل حق مسکن، کار، تحصیل، طلاق، تقسیم دارایی های مشترک در هنگام جدایی و حضانت فرزندان است،باید در هنگام عقد نکاح در دفتر خانه ثبت اسناد رسمی در قباله ازدواج ثبت شود.



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A simple REAL Baba story

Jay Baba, past two days in the morning i went to the local school here to do some volunteer work. Yesterday we did some ABC with the kids and this morning i played the Tabla machine for them + some daff to exercise the bodies….. it is much fun watching the kids and the interaction with us…..
Now i got this ‘real story’ of how Baba comes to our lives….. simple, yet very ‘touching’… hereby i invite ALL His lovers to send me their own ‘stories’ of how Baba came to their lives (or How they met Baba) Thank you Satish Jaan! (‘stresses’ are mine!) Jay Baba

Dear Brother Mohsen,

My story with Baba is very very simple. You might wonder that Baba had been with me even before I heard His name “Meher Baba”. Since early childhood I began to feel that “some” power is helping, guiding, me and manifesting as my poems.essays and other medium of fine arts and literature. I thought that it was my sheer destiny or good/bad luck. I read nearly all the philosophers, both old amd new; kept performing my dairy rosaries as rituals, but with faith and conviction about God’s existance. All of a sudden, just I retired from government service (in 1999), accidently attended one Baba function at Lucknow. I then realised that it was Meher Baba who had been behind everything witch happend to me in my life.

My dear, my story may seem astonishing, but let me put it in the following way:

There are three stages to realise Meher Baba as God. First, you have to “beleive’ in God and His existance. Second, you have to convince yourself wholeheartedly that HE may be both formless and in-form. Thirdly, you have to understand the princile of Avatarhood. All these are of course, mental excersise, but you have to undergo though it because we can discard “mind’. Human are said to be mental beings. When Baba says “anihialation of mind”, He means the “complete harmony between mind and heart”

So dear, there is nothing special about me. Just an ordinary man with all the vices and much less vertues.
I am very much touched by your bogs compaign. I guess you are a Media person, and I look upon you as a friend in the vast ocean of internet, who is doing just the things which Baba said to Jean Andriel (I hope i have spelled her name correctly; see the book ‘The Avatar’ by her). Thus:
Saluting Him in you

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Mother/father Complex +sex = 2 Fresh topics of interest for all

Jay Baba: following is a recent communication with a brother who is a very special and mysterious Babalover soul’, i have been blessed to know him this year and our brotherhood is growing with such exchanges. The topic is one of the two ‘favorite topics for ALL = money and sex’: the second one; which is actually in an ‘existential way’ the primary one; money comes much later in the picture!

If God = TRUTH, then this is ‘GOING for IT’; and if anybody has anything against this, please write it down and send for us! Starting from the ‘basic issues’ is the way to get to the ‘sublime issues’, such as God-realization. And for me, the audience of this blog are mainly the younger generation who may use the experience of the experienced ones. The same-age group (5os) could also enjoy comparing the different views, while the more advanced group (60+) may also use it to add their own experience here for us ALL to benefit.

So I hope by starting this ‘topic’ no one gets offended, because there is NOTHING to ‘defend’! there is much to ‘share’ but nothing to ‘hide’ or nothing to defend. Yes, ‘some ‘offence’ can be already seen for/on/at the ‘conditioned mind’, but that is part of the game! If anyone wants to ‘play’ the ‘defensive side’, I welcome it! But there is really NOTHING to ‘defend’! Truth needs no defense. Cloudy and False-like may appear, but is always shining sharp, even behind the clouds of the ‘conditioned mind’!

So since I just got his permission to publish his views, enjoy reading our correspondence if you like, or click elsewhere to use your valuable time in some other topics!

(BOLD font is his)

Dear….THANK you again for the sharing… i enjoy it and i am SURE many would enjoy reading such ‘first hand’ REAL experiences (specially young people who have YET to experience such truths /facts of life.) i hope some day you allow me to use them (anonymously of course! in my blog. when?

…..I think you’re right about me, my ego, enjoying being ‘The Most’, although it’s usually expressed in a subtle or off-beat way.
well, it is NOT only about you, it is a normal natural function of the ego, true for ALL (who can see!)

It’s another leftover from my upbringing.
Yes dear, all we suffer/ enjoy now is the result of our upbringing. and this brings the famous issue of ‘mother/father complex’ in Jungian psychology.

My parents were quite obsessed with being superior to everyone else, and they succeeded in this obsession in many ways, and it did bring them a measure of contentment / satisfaction.
Yes, and suppose you meet a woman with the opposite background and due to her obsession to fulfill the basic desires (will to power included) and your ‘habit’ of looking for ‘beauty and innocence, you meet and fall/rise in lust/love! then what happens?

My mother was brought up a theosophist, and still knew The Bhagavad Gita word-perfect on her deathbed, but she rejected this spiritual upbringing and expressed absolutely no regrets even as she lay dying.
The BIG problem with the ‘strong ego’ is the PRIDE and unless this is not ‘dissolved in love’ the transformation is NOT possible and one need another round of Samsara/Maya to get rid of that PRIDE. i am also aware of my ‘pride’ and wish Baba has something in ‘store’ for me to deal with/transcend it.

To have such extreme parents is sure to effect anyone to some extent.
Yes, it is a natural law of growth: to over-grow the parents and become one ‘step’ ahead of them, evolution-wise i mean.

I’m the opposite of her.
Yes, usually this happens : we choose the opposite of what we suffer from!

I had an extremely worldly upbringing which I rejected, but some aspects of it still express themselves.

Yes and this is the domain of sub or unconsciousness to register things in the childhood, so to deal with them later in life. it reminded me of the movie i watch 2 nights ago about the life of Johnny Cash. it was wonderful to watch all these archetypes of child/parent/warrior/lover/magician…..

As far as sex goes, here’s Baba’s exact words ‘The only REAL CONTROL is the discipline of the senses from indulgence in low desires, which alone ensures absolut purity of character’.

well well, great, but HOLD it there! INDULGENCE is SO different than having a ‘normal happy useful sex-life’! Yes or no? Baba is talking about ‘indulgence’ and by definition is it so different than using His given gift = sex in a loving caring way. am i wrong here or what?

I couldn’t remember in my last email, but it was Ramakrishna who was still having problems with lust whilst on the 6th plane.
Yes, Mahatma Gandhi is also reported to have wet dreams at his later age. Suppression of the lower desires is the biggest mistake man can MAKE! sex-energy is a divine God-given gift and using it in moderation and in a guilt-free way is the best ‘gratitude’ man can have for His lord for this gift. Baba also talk about ‘lust’ as the FIRST step toward true/real love… SO this FIRST makes it clear that we shall not remove it or deny it or think BAD about it : after all, that is the FIRST STEP! and to PASS it, one needs to PASS it, not to destroy it or negate it or deny it.

For a long time I’ve tried to at least mitigate the negative effects of lust by only having sex with a woman I loved, but I still think it would be better to not feel lust in the first place.
Well, after reading the above, please let me know about your last ‘first place’!! LUST id the ‘first place’ anyway, like it or not, it is HIS wish!

After all, it’s just another expression of duality and the illusion of separateness.

<!– D([“mb”,”

\n\’Another\’ yes, but NOT the \’negative\’ one! remember that we all come\nFROM \’duality\’ to \’ONENESS”, and duality being Maya, the FIRST shadow\nof God, it has it own \’PLACE\’ too, the \’FIRST place\’! … and in ANY\n\’journey\’ FIRST and LAST step are the cruitial ones, none can be\ndenied, and in order to reach the last we MUST respect the \’first\’ and\nstart from there, not indulging of course! Indulgence is another\n\’separate issue\’ which we can talk about it later.

“,1] ); D([“mb”,”

Much Love and many thanks for your \ninput

“,1] ); D([“mb”,”

\nMuch love and care from here too and thank you for going on and\nwish you let me use this in my blog. i can always use it in a way that\nwe will remain a \’mysterious loving brother\’

“,1] ); /’Another’ yes, but NOT the ‘negative’ one! remember that we all come FROM ‘duality’ to ‘ONENESS”, and duality being Maya, the FIRST shadow of God, it has it own ‘PLACE’ too, the ‘FIRST place’! … and in ANY ‘journey’ FIRST and LAST step are the critical/crucial ones, none can be denied, and in order to reach the last we MUST respect the ‘first’ and start from there, not indulging of course! Indulgence is another ‘separate issue’ which we can talk about it later.

Much Love and many thanks for your input

Much love and care from here too, and thank you for going on with me……

In His Love and Grace ……
Yours in His FIRE Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

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This 4w & freedom of expression

Jay Baba…. i rather post useful essential things, rather than the trivia, so the delay in posting is just due to this fact, and ‘other facts of life’! The following is a ‘fresh reply’ to an Irani sister, living abroad, who we recently met thru some Yahoo group i send my translaions to. Since it is related to my previous post/’favorite subject’, i post some parts of it here and welcome your feedbacks on this and other post…. more is cooking about other ‘vita; interesting topics’ (Italics are hers)

Dear friend …….Glad this English correspondence is useful for you, for me is, as well. please keep it up and if you let me i use some of your words in my blog………….

From those articles ,I only read one which was very interesting too,About different thought of different nations,whom are supposed to be free and liberated in the 21th century ,although we encountered condemn of those people ,as in Bahaee ,religion.

i am glad you see the point.

The largest of whom being astonished by some of wrong decisions of the Sects of the other religion such as moslems in Iran.

…….. or ‘extinct’ ?? or prosecuted? Yes, those mullas cannot tolerate anything that goes against their big sick egos!

Although we have to accept , it comes from benefits of politicians who made decisions to abolish those Bahaee ,……………

Yes and unfortunately, in Iran these days, the Politicians and the Priests are ONE nasty ‘body’!!

Anyway ,don’t take it wrong: I am not Bahaee either,but I had some Bahaee freinds when I was in central America,they were really friendly nice and well educated.One of them was the leader of the group of nine people ,and I had seen many pictures from Hifa in Israeel ,their temple and religious ceremonies,.

Yes, true. they are ‘highly cultured and very close to the ‘ultimate truth = LOVE’, much much closer to GOD than those who condemn/prosecute them!

In my opinion all the people are good ,this is us who think bad about the people ,so they are not responsible for the way we think about them.

Yes dear, this is called ‘right seeing’. Wish those in ‘worldly power’ also could see this, but as you know better, they are ‘blind and deaf’!

Oh I talked too much ,sorry about that and I wanted to mention this point that ,the article I have read there ,fascinated me so much in this case and it shows the reality in a way u accept the argumentation of the article.

Thank you dear, do you mean the Farsi article by M.Mir?
Yes, Freedom of expression has been always my way of life, in theory and in practice. i Thank the whole existence that we have this wwww (wonderful www!) to express ourselves and communicate with each other.

Yes, the first few sentences were in German , cuz I have seen the weblog about u in German language,may be it was because of my computer setting,.

thank you yet i would love to know if it was YOUR writing or the site introduction, or what else? if it was yours, i appreciate a translation!

Ok thanks alot again for what u sent to me,
sometimes my dictation and words which I used are not correct ,the reason is only mixing alot with German and French ,so forgive me for this case,I know I almost forget English but it is good to write in English .It is helpful.
Ok it is all for now,thanks again ,and bon weekend.Happy Easter, Happy smiles ,, Mojdeh,

Thank you dear one. i appreciate your being my friend and hope we communicate more often and if you let me i will post some of this mail to my blog, to encourage readers feedbacks……….
in His love and service

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Humanity MUST prevail

the following i just found in my inbox, since it is about HUMAN RIGHT of self-expression, will post it here for a change, for Farsi readers. Hope i am not ‘accused’ of being a “Bahaee’! But who cares, i visted their temple in Delhi 2 months ago and it was a delight! Jay Baba

انسانیست باید محقق شود.

سالهاست که دراین مملکت انسانها به جرم اندیشه محکوم میشوند. ربطی هم به جمهوری اسلامی ندارد. آیین قبیله است. ریشه اش بیشتر در فرهنگ است تا سیاست. اما وسعتش وقتی دیده میشود که میرسد به روابط کلان اجتماعی. عمریست قاعده دراین مرز و بوم حذف مستقیم دیگران است . فقط حلقه ی این “دیگران” درهر دوره از گردن عده ای به گردن گروهی دیگر افتاده.

درميان آنها که مدام “دیگران” بوده اند ، چه درزمان قاجار، چه درزمان پهلوی و چه امروزـ البته با شدت و ضعف درنوسان ـ بهائیان، شاگرد اول شده اند. محرومیت از تحصیل دانشگاهی ، محرومیت از ثبت ازدواج در اسناد رسمی ایران ، محرومیت از دریافت حقوق بازنشستگی ، حتی محرومیت از داشتن عنوانی به نام بازنشستگی علیرغم سنوات کار، محرومیت ازداشتن حق بیمه ،محرومیت از داشتن سنگ قبر، اعدام های فراوان، شکنجه وحبس های بی دلیل، حبس اموال، تخریب مکانهای مقدس و ممنوعیت خروج از کشورو آزارهایی از این دست ـ که چند موردش بعد از اصلاحات کم رنگ و یا حل شد و باقیش همچنان به قوت خودش باقیست ـ از جمله مواردیست که باور کردنش در قرن ۲۱ کمی سخت است اما به شدت واقعیست. و تمام اینها تاوان همان “جور دیگر اندیشیدن” است و قصه ی” قبیله و دشمن”. متاسفانه ترس از آنچه که هرگز ندانسته ایم چیست، فضا را برای اعمال این حذف خشن آماده تر میکند.

گاهی فکر میکنم این ندانستن بر میگردد به اینکه به شدت ایرانیست. شاید اگر مبداش به هند یا چین یا بیافرا بر میگشت کمی ساده تر نگاهش میکردیم .هنوزهم ما، بهائیان را به عنوان پیروان “بهائی گری” میشناسیم. هنوز هم به دلیل نظم اداری این آیین، باور میکنیم که اینها وابسته اند به تشکیلات مخوف فراماسونری. هنوز هم فکر میکنیم که کار، کارانگلیس ها ست و کتاب های قطوری هم برای اثبات این فرضیه ها در بغلمان گذاشته اند. هنوز هم خیلی ها فکر میکنند که اميرعباس هویدا بهائی بوده . هنوز هم قصه ها هست ازآن کلید ها که در محفل های این جماعت رد و بدل میشود. و قصه های ازدواج با محارم… و خلاصه هر چه که غرور ملتی را جریحه دار میکند تا آنها را محکوم کند و من حذف کننده را تایید. ونمی دانیم که آنها هنوزهم زندانی میشوند و هیچکس نمیتواند خبری از وضع سلامتشان به بیرون برساند یا ازشان دفاع کند.

اینکه من چه باوری دارم، دین دارم یا حتی خداپرست هم نیستم ، اصلن مهم نیست. حتی اینکه آیا به آنچه ادعای باورش را داشته ام یا به باورش شهرت پیدا کرده ام ، مخلص بوده ام یا نه. حتی اینکه آنچه جماعتی عاشقانه برایش جان میدهند به زعم من یا دیگری اسمش دین است یا فرقه یا هیچ، این هم مهم نیست.

من اما به عنوان یک انسان درد میکشم وقتی انسان دیگری تنها به جرم اندیشه ی” دیگر” در هر کجای تاریخ یا جغرافیای هستی محکوم باشد. چه زینب ،چه مسیح ، چه حلاج ، چه گالیله، چه ژاندارک، چه ماندلا، چه طاهره ، چه واسلاو هاول، چه اکبر گنجی و چه آنها که بعدها نامشان خواهد ماند

محمد میر

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Strong egos/ Weak egos

The following is an extract from a correspondence I had this morning with a very dear brother in Baba’s family regarding the ‘good-old’ EGO issue!! Hope it can clarify some of the terminology I use in this blog. Any EXTRA clarifications, original ideas or suggestions are welcomed. ( * is him / = is me !)

* I did not say, or mean to imply, that strong ego’s are ‘bad’. They can be a lot of fun, but are often very ‘difficult’ to deal with. I never met Eruch, but I have the impression that he had a very strong ego. Also Mani and definitely Kati

= sorry that was my ‘first impression’ ……. as you know, ‘meaning DIFFICULT’, has a ‘negative connotation’ and that is what i wanted to clarify that the same (negativity) can be turned into its opposite by the ‘alchemy of Love for God’

* This is 100% true, but strong ego’s strongly resist being dominated by anybody, even God.

= Well, this brings the question of ‘domination’!! WHY we shall get trapped into this?
One way or the other, it is NOT ok. EVEN God does not dominate us (except by the ‘natural forces of His’) . i think ‘domination’ is an ‘animal/human’ issue and no one must be dominating OR being DOMINATED….. except when LOVE DOMINATES, which is totally an different thing!

* The other point I would like to make is that both of us, and most people, are taking our
relationships with other people-selfs more seriously than our relationship with Baba-God ???

= Well, maybe so, yet i think the way i have come so far, shows that i have taken my work (translation/transmission of the words of love and wisdom, which is somehow GOD-related!) MORE seriously than my other relationships. I had risked my job, social status, and even my life, while in Iran. A very good recent example is my 3-year-young, deep relationship with my ex-mortal-beloved which ended up by me trying to ‘bombard’ her with Baba’s words/info; and asking her explicitly ‘NOT to come from Pune to Mehrabad, if it is only for visiting me, but for Baba’, …. these ‘stupid’ actions made us separated, Thanks to Baba Himself!

HuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuBabaHuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

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‘Go for God’….

David’s answer to that question was really soothing and relaxing for me. It feels that it released some potent energy to use it for ‘GOING FOR GOD’. …….. already started (or actually continued more intensely!) sending some ‘light’ (chapters/whole books in Farsi, by email) for Yahoo groups and individuals who appreciate/need them (one is a ‘key’ figure on the net__an ’emotional consultant’ in a Yahoo group, and a ‘loved’ one in her teaching profession )…

Now, with more relaxation and more intensity, i am thinking about HOW to make these ‘lights’ available for MORE people….. there are 30 books (my Tehran translations) in my Macintosh laptop here, waiting for a technical solution, to be put on the net (some font problem)….(have written a note about it on my white board and carry it with me on the streets here!)

So i take David’s advise and just ‘Go for God’!! if we say GOD= TRUTH, then what i have in ‘possession’ is a real ‘treasure’, needing to be distributed among those who can enjoy it….. this morning had a letter from David, clarifying that the quote was NOT from Baba (as i thought so) the following is my reply to him and his letter…… Jay Baba Huuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Dear brother David
Thank you so much for the clarification. i thought it was from Baba, BUT all wise words come somehow from Baba, na?! i am glad you responded so promptly and wisely… it made me much more relaxed and now my energy is directed to “GO FOR HIM”!!!! i already started sharing my translations (which are all banned and VERY popular in Iran) with a few friends and am thinking (using the mind for its purpose) about HOW to share it with MORE people who can use them and benefit from them. This internet is a real blessing for such works and i shall find a way, by His guidance of course.

Thank you again and you know better what your prize will be, in your next visit to the holy land!
please stay in touch and watch me HOW i ‘go for God’!!! i just love the phrase (in action!)

On 4/11/06, David Graber, MUSC wrote:

Mohsen –
Nice to hear from you! I do need to mention that the saying is not from Baba, but is a Sufi saying, and I can’t remember exactly who said it.
Jai Baba,

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strong egos!

from a letter to a brother in our family

“Dear ……….. And let us not forget that WE also
(you name the new/old pilgrims pioneers/residents in Meherabad)
AT LEAST once have been ‘strong egos’,
before wanting to submit the ego to our Beloved Baba.
Actually I feel that the stronger the ego is, the more it can give to others,
when submitted to the will of God.

Weak egos have not much quality to offer and are always subordinated
to the stronger egos who like to dominate others
(not the submitters of the strong egos who can only serve God by their actions!)

They HAVE something to share…..
so just having a strong ego is NOT the issue,
the problem is when the strong egos do not even know HOW to LOVE God
and how to Submit to God…..

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Best answer so far =”…. go for God and don’t worry about self-actualization…”

Jay Baba………..after having a wonderful evening came to write some more and found the first and best answer to my question… solevd that main question …..Dear David will get his prize when back in Mehrabad, Baba’s wish/will………… then it brings another question of ‘HOW‘ “to go for God” ?????????? any ideas/ suggestions? This will also have a ‘prize’ for it! Jay Baba………………

Dearest brother David
Wow, Thank you so much for the wonderful saying of our Beloved Baba, if you permit, will post it, for others to benefit too. There is much to learn from Baba, thru you who love and serve Him. i am thankful to you for the wise respond. No, i was NOT aware of this sayings of our Baba. since it is in English Many more people can benefit from it, those who do not even know who Baba was/is!

i have been thinking about you whenever i use ‘ the seat’. AT home, in trains and on my new balcony/roof. have it now with me too! left it last week in a Tibetan restaurant and forgot about it for 3-4 days and then with ‘not much hope’ went there and asked for it, and they gave it to me! A rare case in India! Here, one noticable thing is that people look more happy, peaceful and honest that the rest of India i have seen (except on the Magic Hill, of course!) (That place is UNIQUE on this earth___ for MANY things, this included!) s
Since this was a genuine gift from you, it was not lost! Thank you again for all you love and sharing and wish you the best and hope we can communicate more with the blog. Your enlightening comments, like this one, are ALWAYS welcome for all who read it (including the younger people in Iran)

On 4/11/06, David Graber, MUSC wrote:

Hi Mohsen -Your question is one that I made my mind up about some time ago. My feeling is to go for God and don’t worry about self-actualization: when you have Him, you have self-actualization anyway. This quote relates to your question (maybe you are familiar with it)…

“If you were to be united with Him only after the extinction of your vices and the effacement of your pretensions, you would never be united with Him!

Instead, when he wants to unite you to Himself, he covers your attribute with His attribute and hides your quality with His quality.

And thus he unites you to Himself by virtue of what comes from Him to you, not by virtue of what comes from you to Him.

Sufi Saying

So you can turn to God and love God, still being imperfect. In fact, that’s what He wants. He will take care of your spiritual growth and actualization.”

I’m sure you’ll hear some different opinions. Hope you’re keeping well,

In His Love,

David R. Graber, Ph.D.

Associate ProfessorDirector - Bachelor of Health Sciences ProgramHealth Administration & PolicyCollege of Health Professions

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